Facts VS Smears
Smear – Police are examining sickening statements about child abuse made by a highly controversial Ukip candidate.
Fact – ‘Sickening statements’ are in fact: misleading information such as out-of-context clips from 2 different extended interviews, one of which was with a sexual abuse victim, and faked screenshots of twitter messages which were handed to police/journalists.
Smear – The dossier includes a screenshot of a social media message in which Benjamin says he needs ‘something to really trigger’ outrage, adding: ‘Do you have any underage porn or child porn? I will delete it fast so nobody gets in trouble’
Fact – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJci7QCsrEM&t=110s Herein can be found the original debunking of the fake twitter message from early 2017.
Smear – It includes a YouTube broadcast in which Mr Benjamin says: ‘I can be quoted as saying you can f*** young boys. It’s actually not as controversial as you think. Depends on the child, doesn’t it? The ancient Greeks were pederasts. It was considered to be normal. It was mentoring.’
Fact – The ‘quote’ is blatantly cut from not only context, but from 2 different interviews with different people: Justicar – a child sex victim, and Amos Yee, a controversial Singaporean activist claiming (falsely) that he was wrongfully deplatformed for his views on age of consent
A Conversation With the Justicar – “I can be quoted as saying you can f*** young boys.”
https://youtu.be/MkpYHrC2kCI?t=3613 01:00:13, in reference to a previous comment about how easily his quotes could be taken out of context due to the nature of the conversation.
The Thinkery Podcast #17 – Amos Yee – “It’s not actually as controversial as you think,”
https://youtu.be/ZLZNjKHkcs0?t=808 00:13:28, in reference to the age of consent laws across Europe being lower than most Brits or Americans might find socially acceptable, such as 12 or 14.
A Conversation With the Justicar – “Depends on the child doesn’t it?”
https://youtu.be/MkpYHrC2kCI?t=1609 00:26:49, in answer to someone who had experienced underage sex when challenged to tell him that he was a victim and didn’t know what he was doing.
JUSTICAR: I was well under the age of eleven when I started having sex, so what I like to do is put people on the other side of the argument, it’s like, what you have to do is you have to say that someone like me, not anybody else, but me, that I was too stupid to appreciate the nature and quality of what I was doing at the time. Please convince me I didn’t know what I was doing.
SARGON: Yeah, I think erm… I think it’s yeah, it depends on the child really, doesn’t it. Because some kids mature faster than others.
The Thinkery Podcast #17 – Amos Yee – “The ancient Greeks were pederasts. It was considered to be normal. It was mentoring,”
https://youtu.be/ZLZNjKHkcs0?t=1105 00:18:25, A history lesson on the social norms of ancient Greece, which ends in the quote: “It was very strange, and again, I don’t agree with any of this.” (https://youtu.be/ZLZNjKHkcs0?t=1124 00:18:45, Carl Benjamin officially disavows the ancient Greeks.)
Smear – The cache of documents also includes a racist pornographic tweet Benjamin posted showing a white woman having sex with three black men, under which he wrote: ‘So this is your sister.’
Fact – The tweet was sent to people identifying as alt-right and white supremacists in order to provoke a response and highlight racism. It is questionable whether the Mail, or anyone else, could claim that interracial porn itself is racist, as it may in fact be racist to do so.
Smear – The source – who has been interviewed by the police about the material – said: ‘The party leadership were fully aware of this as long ago as September, and not only did nothing about it but actually allowed Benjamin to join the party and become a lead candidate. I will swear an affidavit to that effect.’
Fact – The party leadership were fully aware that this was a nothing-burger comprised of fake tweets and out-of-context clips, poorly pasted together by, most likely, one of Mr Benjamin’s many white supremacist enemies.
Smear – Benjamin was banned from Twitter in 2017 for violating the platform’s rules on targeted abuse. Last night, when asked about the child-sex remarks, which he made in 2014, Benjamin – who is standing for the EU parliament’s South West England constituency – said: ‘It was an abstract conversation. You are a dirty, dirty smear merchant.’
Fact – Benjamin was banned from Twitter along with a whole host of users with the incorrect politics. When called and asked about the child-sex remarks, he recorded the conversation and it can be seen here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXrWAfFfwb0&t=315s from the start.
Carl Benjamin: -you went to the Wiltshire police and got my number, to talk to me about a 5-year-old stream where I was having a conversation in the abstract with a victim of sexual assault?
And what did I say the age of consent should be in that stream? You don’t know? Yes I do, 19:05, timestamp (https://youtu.be/ZLZNjKHkcs0?t=1135), I said exactly what I think it is.
Smear – Other material studied by the police include a now-deleted 2015 video showing him repeatedly using the racial slurs ‘n****r’ and ‘sp*c’. He described two people as a ‘fag’ and a ‘retard’, and said it was ‘just f***ing fine’ to call an Asian woman a ‘ch*nk’.
Fact – The video in question was a dissection of an ad campaign to remove the word ‘retard’ from commonly used language, claiming that it should be placed in the same category as n**ger, k*ke, sp*c and ch*nk. As a ‘free-speech extremist’, Carl Benjamin ends the comedic video with the message similar to “we shouldn’t be teaching children that words are tantamount to violence, and we shouldn’t be allowing people to tell us what to do and say.” The general takeaway from this admittedly edgy yet arguably amusing video, is – whatever happened to sticks and stones? The video was deleted by youtube, but the mirror of the original can be seen here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmDNzQB8_fo
Smear – A spokesman for Mr Batten did not respond to a request for comment last night.
Fact – At the time of this document’s publication, Carl Benjamin’s UKIP campaign team are aware of no outreach for comment made by the Mail to any UKIP spokespersons.
The Mail are not well known for their accuracy, and in the past have truly taken their place among the ‘dirty dirty smear merchants’. This smear goes beyond the pale however, in painting a husband, father, and human rights activist as a deviant with despicable views.
The process of taking the Mail to court over this libelous article has already begun, and Mr Benjamin’s team are also looking into the events that led to his personal contact details being shared with the press.
As there is obvious evidence that everything glued together by the Mail is false, it should be a simple enough case to move forward with.
This information has been compiled by the
UKIP Liberalists Research Team